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Syrian Strike, North Korea: A Formative Moment For the Alt-Sphere

For months factions have quarelled about what the alt-right is, who are its leaders, if anybody, and what it believes with only wavering ground of agreement. Then President Trump fired missiles on Syria and the reaction from these disparate groups was overwhelming.

The anti-establishment internet has come out in force against the attack, and especially against any further moves towards intervention.  For the first time, red pill PUAs, white nationalists, alt-lite civic nationalists, neo-reactionaries, alt-left former Bernie supporters find themselves all on the same page.

Meanwhile, a faction of optimate neocons begins to solidify with warhawk republicans and SJW libs alike coming out in favor of new Middle Eastern wars.  Even progressive-leaning politicians like Elizabeth Warren were agreeing something must be done about Syria.

What to think when even the president’s sworn political enemies want to “hold accountable” the leaders of far-away lands over their own domestic policy—and for no clear US gain?  Actually, the clear US gain is to simply allow Assad to finish crushing ISIS!

Even Rand Paul, a republican known for some anti-establishment leanings, seems to disapprove but draws things out and chooses his words very carefully.

While many Trump supporters are disappointed or even disillusioned by the attack, it becomes increasingly clear that no one, whatever their professed beliefs, would have brought significant change to American foreign policy.

The flimsy excuse of “chemical attacks” that’s been recycled for decades now only hammers in the point.  We have established beyond a doubt that the problem is systemic.

The best move is not to panic and run, but to stay firmly in the Trump camp for now making our presence felt.  The Syria attack may have been one of Trump’s trial balloons which may well have just been shot down with all the firepower the anti-establishment can bring to bear.

The alt-right is actually pretty small, but it’s so easy to overestimate its size because that’s where the new growth and the energy is at.  Audacious Epigone aptly describes them as the “trench warriors” who got Trump into office.

Dissidents have made unimaginable progress since the beginning of the 2016 election entering into mainstream visibility as a political force for the first time.  But now the limits of that influence become clear.

The next obvious step is the rise of politicians who don’t just smile and wink at the dissidents from time to time while “disavowing” but profess their beliefs outright.

We’ll know we’re on the right track when there are leaders who unequivocally and unreservedly denounce pointless foreign interventions, sappy globalist claptrap, and traitorous open-border cuckery while saving the majority of their energy for domestic policy.

It’s time to figure out how to make neo-populists a force in their own right if it turns out the present order is impermeable and unchangeable.

At this moment, we are seeing a new standoff over North Korea, this time possibly with Chinese cooperation.  If that’s so, Trump’s maneuvering may actually have paid off impressively.

However cleverly done, though, nuclear brinksmanship isn’t the reason people put Trump in office.  It would be a big accomplishment if North Korea comes out of this confrontation chastened, but America’s real problems right now are internal.

I understand arguments that Trump wants to reassure his allies after Obama showed weakness and that North Korea is trying to develop missiles that can reach the USA.

The problem with this policy is eventually, most nations will have their house atomics.  North Korea’s boss, China, already is a major nuclear power.  What’s next, unilaterally blowing up Iranian reactors?
It’s 1940s technology and most nations that want to will be able to eventually find the materials and expertise.  
If that’s not something humanity can cope with, perhaps we have the answer to Fermi’s paradox(not yet finding signs of other sentient life).

The alt-sphere finds itself facing its first big challenges as a visible political influence. Like all politics there is a delicate line to walk.  Too strident, you lose your place at the bargaining table.  Too docile, you get nothing anyway.  From now on it will be about finding that sweet spot.

A lot of objectives are already meeting with success:
-The TPP was killed almost immediately.
-Illegal immigration is plummeting.
-ICE has been far more active within US borders.
-Originalist Supreme Court Justice confirmed.
-Some encouraging initial reports that corporations may be returning operations to the US.

However, the re-emergence of neocon foreign policy is profoundly worrying and the rustlings and shufflings of power struggles within the administration are ominous to say the least.  

Critics like Hunter Wallace pointed out all along that a cabinet full of establishment generals, Wall Street bankers, corporate open-borders apologists, big party donors was bound to cause problems.

I guess many of us supposed Trump would somehow bend them all to his will but it seems the simple fact is, people are who they associate with the most.  So special attention must be paid to the last alt-right and nationalist figures in the cabinet.

Like elite classes throughout history, the present elite are unwilling to accept their decline.  If they back off, they will still have social status and their mansions in Potomac and Arlington for awhile living an easy life in an Edwardian twilight.  If they put all their chips down on keeping all the power they’ve got, it will start to get interesting.

Though vilified as a Nazi, Trump ran, for the most part, as a center-right moderate as he has been for most of his life.  I’ve said before:  Obama was the establishment’s last chance to fix the system.  Trump is the system’s last chance.  If this round fails to produce satisfactory solutions, it is possible that the door is opened to the spread of more radical sympathies.

5 responses to “Syrian Strike, North Korea: A Formative Moment For the Alt-Sphere

  1. UlricKerensky April 14, 2017 at 1:06 am

    House atomics, one of Frank Herbert’s
    contributions to space feudalism.

    The Alt-right’s next test will be assembling the logistics capacity to actually keep to a schedule of events.

    • Giovanni Dannato April 16, 2017 at 5:04 pm

      It just seemed like an appropriate analogy somehow. Alt-right is suddenly starting to organize independently of politicians since the Syria strike with remarkable effectiveness, even coordinating maga brownshirts to shut down antifa communist disruptors.

  2. Sam J. April 15, 2017 at 3:43 am

    I not willing to write Trump off yet. it looks bad but he hasn’t stopped investigating. Some of his small goals may seem to be lost but bigger ones seem to be in play and the smaller things can always be picked up again later. I have said often we should just leave Korea all together but if he can keep NK from spreading nukes it would be a huge win. He seems to be doing this.

    There are several highly illegal and evil things going on it our country that provide power to the ruling class through blackmail. Maybe he feels that he couldn’t just spring them and survive. I don’t know what he’s doing. I think in a year we’ll know. If he doesn’t start putting lots of people in jail by then over the false flags then…well he’s probably been neutralized in some way or another.

    • Giovanni Dannato April 16, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      This is pretty much where I’m at. I’ll give Trump a chance and see where he goes with this. He has to help elites with their agenda if he wants their help but if he’s the same guy still from the campaign he has to know he’s toast if he backs off on immigration.
      There’s a line though between taking what you can reasonably expect from a politician and rejecting a bad proposition.

      On the bright side, renewed political brawls as the weather gets warmer tells us, the reaction will continue unabated no matter what politicians are doing.

    • Sam J. April 26, 2017 at 2:20 pm

      Every minute I lose more faith. The damn fools are sending three aircraft carriers, supposedly, into the a small area next to North Korea where Russian, Chinese forces are packed into a small area. These people haven’t the slightest clue on how to use the military at all. We may very well have all these soldiers slaughtered by their incompetence. I know we’re not supposed to think “bad thoughts” but maybe they actually WANT to destroy them. The military plans for the last decade have been of such stupidity that it makes you wander. If we’re major defeated in the sea off of North Korea there will be a massive currency collapse of the US dollar. It will be a blood bath. I can not curse or berate these fools enough.
      I believe “fervently” that the psychopaths have completely taken over our country. No joke not just a phrase, I mean psychopaths. I think this even further consolidates my idea that Empires fall because psychopaths concentrate at the top and the only thing that makes them happy is destruction and domination of everyone else. They can only do this in large scale societies where power is removed from the people. I think after each crash they are killed off largely and have to hide. As society builds into larger structures with larger cities and they can become anonymous they start having more and more kids. They are very good at fooling Women that they are…well whatever Women they meet want as they are perfect actors and liars. Eventually they control everything and being completely stupid when it comes to the long term they drive the society right into the ground. Is Trump a psychopath??? He might be. He has a few traits that point that way.
      http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/01/age-of-the-psychopaths/
      http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/04/15/a-government-of-morons/

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