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- Stark Truth Podcast: Neuro-Tribalism
- Time For America To Grow Up
- An Alt-Centrist Look At UBI
- Multi Neuro-Tribal Society
- Interview With Rob Stark on Culture and Aesthetics
- Neuro-Tribalism
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- My Response to Ginsburg’s Fall
- The Changing of Power
- Stopping the Race to the Bottom
- There’s No Real Freedom Without Authority
- Seattle Airplane Suicide Is A Barometer of Culture
- Attack on Titan and Modernity
- Rob Stark’s Journey to Vapor Island, A Review
- Podcast: Pragmatic Dissidence With Robert Stark
- Human “Stupidity” Comes From Conflict of Interest
- There’s No Power Without “Downward Distribution”
- My Parser Computer Game
- To Stand Within or Without the Circle of Life
- The Shape of Water: Del Toro’s Final Descent into PC
- How Does the US Empire End?
- Podcast With Rob Stark About Alt-Centrism, Current Events
- My New Alt-Dissident Fantasy Fiction
- The Dance of Cooperation and Defection
- Suburban Populism Beats Rural Traditionalism In Mass Identity Politics
- Dissident Success Requires Cities
- The Cryptocurrency Explosion
- Sexual Harassment Hysteria Seriously Undermines the Establishment
- The 21st Century Leans Toward Aristocracy
- The Augustus Principle
- Lebanon Predicts the Future USA
- Scarcity of Social Capital Sustains Institutions
- The Class Divide in the Alt Right
- Unraveling Civil War Moral Hysteria
- The Scarcity of Social Capital in Western Societies
- “Average Is Over” Is A Destructive Mindset
- Catalonia and Sovereignty
- Fourth Generation Sovereignty
- The Problems of Secession and Dissolution
- Worshiping White Women Is A Losing Strategy For the Dissident Right
- Podcast with Rob Stark: Status Mechanics and Alt-Right Aesthetics
- All Focus on 2018 Midterms
- Alt-Lite and the Weakening of the Merchant Caste
- The Alt-Sphere Should Embrace Culture and Aesthetics
- The Social Cosmology
- High School And Status in America
- The Mechanics of Status
- Observations Leading Up To Bannon Resignation
- On Alt-Sphere Reactions to Charlottesville
- Charlottesville Will Help Alt-Dissidents
- Macro-Sexenomics: Female Beauty Dysgenics In Modern Society
- The Macro-Sexenomics of Female Beauty
- Interview With Rob Stark About the Alt-Center
- The Factions of Alt-Dissidents
- Korezaan, A Regular Commenter, Gets His Own Interview
- Alt-Right Drift Towards “Leftist” Policies
- Thoughts On Replacing Traditional Marriage In A Post-Scarcity Society
- How We Get to an Alt-Center
- Interview with Stark Truth Radio About Post Scarcity Economics
- Defining the Alt-Center: Neo-Tribalism
- Combining The Alt-Right and the Alt-Left
- Female Power and the Vote
- Career Women and Dysgenics
- Preventing Dysgenics in a Society With Basic Guaranteed Living
- NEETs, Lumpenproles, and the Leisure Economy
- The Leisure Economy
- Urban Land Management In A Post Scarcity Economy
- Much US Dysfunction Comes From Post-Scarcity Denial
- State Capitalism in the Internet Age
- Some Form of State Capitalism Is the Future
- On A Basic Guaranteed Living
- On A Post Labor Scarcity Economy
- Reviving Hammurabi’s Code: Different Laws For Different Castes
- White Undertow: The Cause of SWPL Hate?
- The SWPL Paradox: Why Rule By High IQ Fails Miserably
- Syrian Strike, North Korea: A Formative Moment For the Alt-Sphere
- Why the Attack on Syria?
- There’s No Such Thing As “Free Markets”
- Extreme Individualism Is Why Whites Don’t Run Hollywood
- Most Wealth is Wasted in Modern Society
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- 6 Heretic's Way (Alt-Center, NRx, Neo-Tribal)
- Alfred's Blog (Dutch NRx)
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- EvolutionistX (HBD)
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- Ulric Kerensky's Blog
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- Biohistory: Decline and Fall of the West
- Caesar: A Biography, Meier
- Collapse, Diamond
- Debt: The First 5000 Years, Graeber (Founded Alt-Left?)
- Europe Between the Oceans: 9000 BC-AD 1000, Cunliffe
- Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World, Weatherford
- How the Scots Invented the Modern World, Herman
- Kagan's 'Peloponnesian War'
- Kissinger's 'Diplomacy'
- Paul Fussell's 'Class' (Founded the Alt-Center?)
- Plagues and Peoples, McNeill
- The Beak of the Finch, Weiner
- The Black Swan, Taleb
- The Culture Code, Rapaille
- The Outsider, Wilson
- The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers, Kennedy
- The Story of Philosophy, Durant
- The Survival Game: How Game Theory Explains the Biology of Cooperation and Competition, Barash
- The Tipping Point, Gladwell
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To quote a famous movie, “There can be only one”. Such a caste system is unstable. Upper caste people want their children to retain status, no matter how lower-caste they should be. This is called “securing these blessings for our posterity”. Therefore, it is best for society to be split and subdivided along genetic lines, from nation, to tribe, to clan, to family levels. This may seem weak; big empires will always come in and clobber such societies. But, a hundred years later, the empire has vanished, and the genetic based society reasserts itself, if it hasn’t bought into the empire propaganda and let itself be dissolved. The Celts bought into the Roman propaganda, so the Germanics conquered them. Those Celts who remained outside Roman influence, did pretty well; the Irish Diaspora today is far larger than the Irish population itself. Damn those Irish, snobbishly turning their backs on us half-breeds.
You bring up a good and wise objection. People, short of philosophical restraint, will do anything they think will help their children succeed.
This is why such a system has to assign the castes with a high level of accuracy. The top castes would have to be truly long term oriented people. People that can reason that if they get their incompetent son promoted today, the entire nation will suffer(or even fall) tomorrow. This in fact is the topic of the next post I’m working on.
I will give a glimpse ahead and suggest that we should give higher castes a lion’s share of wombs to promote a eugenic order. This would serve a dual purpose. If a few of the magistrate’s offspring were slow and incompetent there would be 5 or 6 more that better inherited his optimal tendencies.
You’re right that an order where high caste people have just 1 or 2 children could suffer from serious instability. But if your average mandarin had at least a few concubines, he could deal with it much more easily if some of the offspring were unsuited for the higher functions of the breed.
Also, you should look at my previous posts about public resources. A virtuous system would have plenty of safety nets for the middle classes and above. So if someone’s well bred child wanted to be a stoner during their 20s living out of their car, the system would readily indulge their explorations, provided they have the raw mental wattage and native curiosity to justify society’s investment.
I have written many times on the divine importance of permissiveness and leisure regarding the true aristocracy. Idle (stupid) hands do the devil’s work.
In China, the mandarin with many concubines was a real thing. It did help, definitely. But the eunuchs kept mucking things up. I believe eunuchs should never be allowed political power. Their motives are too unstable.
In the Bible, only fathers got the vote, only fathers who were native born citizens could stand for office. So, only mature males who had a stake in societies future, got to say how society was ordered.
For such a system to work, there have to be frequent purges. This happened in China; this happens today in the corporate environment. Every so often there is a wave of firings and layoffs. This is like the dog that swims in a river to get rid of fleas. No matter the caste, people are susceptible to flattery and brown-nosing. Thus, the system is corrupted. Only a hard reboot every so often can keep the parasites and deceivers at bay. So corporations have massive layoffs every few years to get rid of the weak. The more frequent the purges, the more unstable the system.
In the genetic/family based system, purges are more or less ongoing at a very low level, but at such a low level that it acts as a type of hormesis, strengthening everyone, and noone falls too far. It isn’t devastating.
I have often thought about this kind of thing. The important thing in your picture is getting the highest caste, as you identify it, into power. We already have the other castes. Problem is, that’s never going to happen.
What is needed is segregation from the grassroots up. Find a way for the most virtuous of society to band together and effectively quit society together. More of an “exit” approach.
I would also suggest that there are two natural ruling castes: the self-interested intelligent, and the virtuous intelligent. The former are in power already. The latter, if they have any power, are in places like Silicon Valley where that kind of psyche is (more) adaptive. A high-achieving example would be Linus Torvalds, for instance.
A caste system exists, but because it is informal and ideologically invisible, the people and the state are not able to think or act intelligently concerning it. I’ve given some ideas of how a deliberate caste system might be organized more constructively.
Yes, the first step is for a smaller group to control their own sphere and grow from there.
I’ve predicted a resurgence of tribal structures for years. Without a common enemy, people have no reason to compromise within a large nation when they could realize their entire vision within a tighter band.
State coercion struggles with this sort of secession because modern tribes won’t rely on geographical boundaries and territory like a state does. States are already struggling versus “asymmetrical actors” with no state affiliations.
The selfish intelligent tend to act rationally in terms of getting as rich and powerful as possible but can end up destroying everything with their greed. In some ways, they act quite stupid. They’re far from invincible. I don’t even propose being especially virtuous for its own sake but to have an approach of the long term as opposed to plundering the system now even if it leaves behind an unstable system with disaffected millions. A billionaire who just wants to plunder is a bigger version of that prole at the grocery checkout who can’t pass up on the national enquirer.
Aye, I hear you.
Linus Torvalds is a guy who decided to sit down and write his own OS 25 years ago. He created an avalanche (IBM got involved, etc) that today results in a high excellence with continuous development, with no obvious profit monopoly on the software. That’s an example of the virtuous intelligent having a big impact.
Now, what would it take to create an organization that is capable of scooping up these virtuous intelligent people and putting them to good use? How much genius could $1 billion unleash, for instance, if applied in a laser-like way?
Seems to me that the virtuous intelligent today either drop out completely and become broken, or go into sub-optimal roles (engineering at Faceamagoosoftbook, etc). Torvalds is not the norm. If we could figure out a way to turn money into genius-optimization for societal benefit/disruption. Then, it would just be a matter of charming a few billionaires and setting things in motion…
We all see big organizations dump billions of dollars into idiot projects. We’ve all thought: what if you took just 1 billion and invested in the best people?
I think virtuous intelligent are just more intelligent period and they drop out because you have to be within a couple orders magnitude of most people to get anywhere in a mass society without caste barriers. If you’re above or below that margin, society isn’t designed for you and like-minded people you can band up with are few.
To allow people on the extremes to get together and do their thing, they have to be both protected and given power beyond their small numbers. Ironically, it seems even capricious noble patronage may have done a better job of this in some respects than the credentialist scuffling of modern education. Even ivy leagues seem to select mainly for upper middles and heirs to rulership who “get it” rather than having ideas of their own. It’s a recipe for civilizational stagnation and that’s what we get.
So all we really need to do to get started is to change the attitude of the organization. I remember well how public school was all about teaching to the middle and neglecting the extremes. Wrong priorities. The top 20% should be getting 80% of systemic investment.
Aye. I’ve often met smart people in my career where I’ve gone “if only I had the finances to give that guy a proper focus in life”.
Are there are any examples of billionaires cutting geniuses a fat check and going “off you go, do whatever you want with your epic brain”?
I guess Y Combinator would be a slightly structured way of doing just that. But it biases toward commercial feasibility.
Well, Michelangelo was pretty much a borderline autistic whose single-mindedness and freakish neural wiring made him one of the best. He’s exactly the sort of person that would get tossed aside in our present day society for his lack of people skills. It’s amazing the bullshit that even the Pope would put up with if the talent was there. He had to stick with commissions but had a level of creative freedom within the bounds of his assignments.
We could look at examples like Voltaire in the court of Frederick the Great. Until he stupidly screwed over his patron, he pretty much seems to have had free room and board to do nothing but provide counseling and entertainment for the monarch. Seems like there used to be eccentrics flourishing who would just be dropouts today.
I guess billionaires today donate money to charitable organizations rather than talented individuals, possibly because that’s what the tax system incentivizes. So perhaps the system then is structured to actually discourage noble patronage and subsidize the bottom 20% instead.
Instead of giving applicants a quiz to determine their class, maybe it should be reversed.
The applicant should ask the ministry of caste officer questions designed to filter out people of the desired caste of the applicant.
Their queries will reveal much about who they are.
I wonder if it is more difficult to ad-lib the right questions or the right answers.
I just did a post on “easy giveaways.” I.e. somone who’s favorite pastime off the job is reality TV has no place above true middle. It’s amazing what you can learn seeing someone’s room or their facebook page in less than 1 minute per person. Or I could see just watching someone go about their daily life for awhile before the quiz and/or interview ever happens.
I could see an interview being a useful part of the process, but I suspect sociopathic strivers would start to get wise to what the interviewers like and try to imitate it like they do in the job market.
But I don’t know, the really apex people could keep most ambitious strivers out simply because it’s almost impossible for anyone of normal mind to imitate successfully. Most parasites seem to specialize in learning how normal people think because they’re easier targets and there’s far more of them.